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Taking A Closer Look at Humanity’s Cosmic Allies (and Enemies?) with Paul Wallis

In this episode, Jay interviews Paul Wallis, a world-renowned researcher who connects ancient wisdom to modern narratives about our interactions with extraterrestrial beings. Tune in if you want to gain a deeper understanding of the potential shifts in societal structures that could result from contact with extraterrestrial beings and explore the possibilities of a future where humanity is more connected, more enlightened, and more empowered as a result.


In this episode, Jay interviews Paul Wallis, author of The Eden Series and a world-renowned researcher who connects ancient wisdom to modern narratives about our interactions with extraterrestrial beings.

They dive head first into the topic of disclosure, exploring the implications of human contact and collaboration with advanced civilizations happening right here on Earth. They also touch on the potential for society to bifurcate into two parallel realities, and why it’s more important than ever for us to raise our collective consciousness to prepare for such an event.

Tune in if you want to gain a deeper understanding of the potential shifts in societal structures that could result from contact with extraterrestrial beings and explore the possibilities of a future where humanity is more connected, more enlightened, and more empowered as a result.

“The number of people having profound and positive contact experiences is happening at a rate like we’ve never seen before.The story is getting bigger, but it really needs to go large for us to make the next step forward.” 

– Paul Wallis

What You’ll Learn From This Episode

  • Ancestral Narratives and Ancient Wisdom – Appreciate the significance of ancestral stories in helping us understand past contact with extraterrestrial beings and the potential lessons they teach us about the future.
  • Government Secrecy and Disclosure – Hear the latest updates on UFO research and government policies around disclosing information related to extraterrestrial contact to the general public. 
  • Soft Disclosure and Public Reaction – Learn about the concept of soft disclosure and assess the public’s readiness to accept such information without defaulting to chaos, violence, or debilitating fear.
  • Parallel Societies and Timelines – Consider the possibility of parallel realities existing on independent timelines, where one side evolves toward a higher consciousness and the other continues in a controlled or dissonant state.
  • Transhumanism and Human Preservation – Analyze the contrasting views on transhumanism versus the preservation of human nature, where one side advocates for merging our bodies with technology while the other fights to maintaining organic humanity and consciousness.

Key Moments In This Conversation

  • 00:00:00 – Introduction
  • 00:03:42 – Public Interest In UFO Disclosure
  • 00:07:09 – Credibility Over Government Entities and Officials
  • 00:12:11 – Potential Motives Behind Public Disclosure
  • 00:18:30 – Ancient Narratives And “Alien” Involvement Throughout History
  • 00:24:11 – Potential Bifurcation Of Our Society Or Reality
  • 00:30:13 – The Galactic Federation & Reverse Engineering Alien Technology
  • 00:36:34 – Transhumanism vs. Preserving Humanity
  • 00:44:47 – The Perpetual Struggle Between Light And Dark
  • 00:49:22 – Closing Thoughts & Paul’s Resources

Guest Bio

Paul Wallis is a world-renowned researcher, author and speaker specializing in ancient narratives and extraterrestrial contact. His books, collectively referred to as “The Eden Series,” bridge the gap between paleocontact, ancient history, and modern-day ufology. 

Paul also shares his research findings and opinions through a digital media platform called The Fifth Kind, which helps more than one million people better understand the historical record of our contact with extraterrestrial beings and what it might mean for our future.

Learn more about Paul and his work at www.paulanthonywallis.com.

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